Groundwind Notes

Field notes on deer and scent

How far can a deer smell you?

There's no one distance, and nobody has measured one. The honest answer: downwind. A deer smells you where enough of your scent reaches its nose, and the wind decides where that is and how often. Here's what's known about the nose, what the wind does with your scent, and the questions hunters ask most.

The nose

A deer's nose is built like a dog's. It has the same separate passage back to a smelling chamber, the layout that's thought to make dogs such keen smellers (Ranslow 2014; Craven 2010). The one measurement of a deer's smell lining put it at about 95 cm² (15 square inches), close to a coyote's. That's one animal of each, and the authors think the deer's was undercounted (Yee 2016).

The numbers you'll see elsewhere have no study behind them. "297 million scent receptors" traces back to a 2016 bowhunting blog. Nobody has counted a deer's smell genes either, and a gene count wouldn't tell you how far an animal can smell anyway (Niimura 2014). "A mile away" has no source we could find.

What has been measured

No one has tested how far a deer smells a person with sight and sound taken away. The nearest thing is how soon deer run from someone walking toward them. Roe and fallow deer in the Netherlands fled at about 65 m (71 yd) when the walker had the wind at their back, against 42 m (46 yd) walking into the wind and 44 m in calm air (de Boer 2004). Scent on the wind bought those deer about 23 m. Brown bears approached with the wind toward them mostly left before the walkers ever saw them (Moen 2012), and wolves downwind of a walker fled sooner (Versluijs 2022).

Dogs give the only ranges. The US Army's scout-dog manual says alerts at 300 to 400 m are common over flat ground in a steady wind, with up to 1,000 m possible. In dense cover, 15 to 30 m is good (FM 7-40). Deer aren't dogs, and nobody has run that test with deer. But the tenfold gap between open ground and thick cover is the wind's doing, and it applies to any nose.

Why the wind decides

  • Scent arrives in patches. A plume is ribbons of strong and weak air, not a smooth cloud. Even 20 m out in the open, odour was there only about a fifth of the time, with longer gaps under trees (Murlis 2000). So "can he smell me at 100 yards?" is really "how often does a patch reach him there?"
  • A steady breeze carries it farthest. Animals that hunt by nose hunted most in a steady 2 to 4 m/s (about 5 to 9 mph) (Ruzicka and Conover 2011). A strong wind makes the cone narrower, a light one lets scent drift weakly, and a gusty one keeps changing it (FM 7-40).
  • Under the trees it's a fraction of the forecast. In a dense stand the air at your head moves at 5 to 15% of the wind above (Cionco 1965; Finnigan 2000), so scent goes slower and shorter.
  • Still air pools it. On a calm evening scent doesn't go far. It gathers round you and slides downhill with the cooling air into the low ground. That's thermals.

One hunter, three kinds of air · an illustration, seen from above, then from the side

The same scent in three kinds of air. In a steady breeze over an open field it runs far and narrow. In the same breeze under the trees it goes shorter and wider. On a still evening on a slope it pools round the hunter and drains slowly downhill. STEADY BREEZE · OPEN FIELD far, narrow SAME BREEZE · UNDER THE TREES shorter, wider STILL EVENING · ON A SLOPE pools, drains downhill
Your scent goes where the air goes
So the answer changes with the hour and the ground

Pee, smoke, coffee and bug spray

Can deer smell human pee, and does it spook them?

In the one peer-reviewed test, human urine didn't keep deer off shrubs, while bobcat and coyote urine did (Swihart 1991). In mock-scrape trials, deer were reported to visit scrapes with human urine as often as the others (Durkin, MeatEater). Science says human urine doesn't spook deer as much as predator urine does—though your hunting partner will still blame it if he doesn't see a buck. It's still more of you, on the ground at your stand.

Do cigarette smoke and coffee spook deer?

Nobody has studied it. Smoke, coffee and you arrive on the same air. If he's close enough to smell your breakfast, he was already downwind of the rest of you anyway.

Can deer smell bug spray or permethrin?

There's no deer study either. Permethrin binds tightly to fabric, and little comes off dry clothing (NPIC).

Does a Thermacell spook deer?

There's no deer study. The fuel units heat an allethrin mat with butane, and the rechargeable ones use metofluthrin (Thermacell). A deer might not love the smell, but you won't shoot anything if you're swatting blackflies at full draw.

Do cover scents like fox urine work?

Nobody has tested pine, earth or acorn covers on deer. Predator urine has been tested, as a repellent: coyote and bobcat urine cut deer at feeders by 15 to 24% (Belant 1998). Pouring fox urine on your boots doesn’t make you smell like a pine needle; it tells deer a predator was there, and that you're standing in it.

Whatever comes off you goes where your scent goes. Keep all of it downwind of where the deer will be.

What the app draws

Groundwind doesn't give you a distance in yards, because there isn't one. It draws where your scent goes at a deer's nose height, about a metre off the ground, and how often it gets there: most minutes, some, or now and then. It runs your scent on the head-height wind of your own ground, so the cone runs long across a field in a breeze, short under the trees, and pools and drains on a still evening. From a stand it shows where the scent comes back down. More on that in what a treestand does to your scent.

Check it where you sit

Puff your powder when you get to your spot, and again when the light changes. Let a milkweed seed go to see where the air carries your scent past the powder. Every puff you log tunes the cone to the air that's really there.

"If you get scented, they're gone."

See where your scent goes on your own ground.

Groundwind is a hunting app that works out the wind at head height for your spot, over the LiDAR ground and every stand of trees, and draws your scent cone on it, from the ground or a stand. A puff of powder corrects it. It works with no service.

Want to read more? Here's the research.

Every figure on this page comes from one of these, and each title links to the source. Hunter press is marked as such. For the nose itself, Yee's comparison of four animals is free and readable.